tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post2166821019179914181..comments2023-11-21T13:12:09.387-05:00Comments on Rattling the Bones: For Better or For Worst.Lisa F. Tardiffhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11417343793276016602noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-82234672733880904402010-09-15T01:23:36.351-04:002010-09-15T01:23:36.351-04:00I remember you saying Lisa that themes like this a...I remember you saying Lisa that themes like this are also cosmological, under the influence of the Winds and Moons... I wonder why these themes seem to repeat over and over again... and it seems that some learn from it and others don't... each time we go around. And some of us learn a little and some learn a lot.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07299877776069389696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-42334825934310691832010-09-15T01:13:06.170-04:002010-09-15T01:13:06.170-04:00I can't believe I never saw this post until ju...I can't believe I never saw this post until just now. And I check this blog regularly. All I can think of is that I have been living something similar, being attacked and persecuted, having others try to make me look bad so they don't have to look at themselves. <br /><br />It seems to be a human default...<br /><br />It also seems to be a collective and ancestral theme and an ongoing challenge for those on a Shamanic path - for the Shaman or Leaders who are persecuted to stand strong in themselves.. and a challenge for those seeking truth to know it when they see and hear it. <br /><br />How can those who seek truth find it when there are so many out there who are "charlatans", for lack of a better word. <br /><br />It is enough to discourage even the most determined of seekers. <br /><br />Yet as Emily and others said, we have found the real thing and the Dreaming will bring us where we need to be. <br /><br />In the end, we can only get stronger and more united.<br /><br />Hau!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07299877776069389696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-4083775326897699332010-09-13T23:34:14.829-04:002010-09-13T23:34:14.829-04:00WOW 14 postings......
I never thought this entry w...WOW 14 postings......<br />I never thought this entry would get so much attention. I love your feedback.<br />Keep it coming.<br /><br />Take care everyone.<br />LISALisa F. Tardiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11417343793276016602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-28504884984748548592010-08-30T12:31:35.746-04:002010-08-30T12:31:35.746-04:00what I have come to recognize with Lisa and this c...what I have come to recognize with Lisa and this community is it is about working on your self not being afraid to seek out that guidance and humble yourself to hearing what others around you are saying...seeing things from a different perspectives. There is always a choice in the end its how we choose to grow or not from the expereience. The teachings have only brought me closer to undertanding myself and opening me to a community of people who I know are there for the same reasons. I like the thought of the strong foundation! We stand in our strengths and weakness and do not pretend to be somthing we are not. <br />Love the post. <br />Love you Lisa.<br />MichelleMichellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16822760763130807297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-55253140577609404102010-08-28T17:16:40.907-04:002010-08-28T17:16:40.907-04:00Boot'n,
You are a perfect example of someon...Boot'n, <br /><br /><br />You are a perfect example of someone living Shamanically. You are willing to learn and look closely at all parts of yourself. You paid attention to the Dove and learnt a valuable lesson.<br />You see what you need to work on, you see where your strengths lie.<br />No one is perfect, the important thing is that we are open to change, open to working on it.<br />I responded emotionally too! And I told myself I wasnt going to but there was emotion involved at first.<br /><br />Ive been thinking about something Lisa said earlier about identifying where our strength lies.. and also about my own personal wheel and my totems, how each one compliments the other on opposite sides of the wheel.<br />To look at this on a personal level within a personal wheel and then on a collective level with eachother is kind of interesting.<br />Its all about balance. <br /><br /><br />EEmilyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17130377828747504418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-42943036144392168402010-08-28T10:52:05.930-04:002010-08-28T10:52:05.930-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bootiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13172384426611745917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-85149910886158791122010-08-27T22:31:39.940-04:002010-08-27T22:31:39.940-04:00Ally,
I agree with you - "there's always...Ally,<br /><br />I agree with you - "there's always potential of healing and learning in all that we live and do."<br /><br />I think the word "audacious" -- fits.<br /><br />LISALisa F. Tardiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11417343793276016602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-29221591022865819332010-08-27T16:40:31.618-04:002010-08-27T16:40:31.618-04:00For Better or For Worst -- what an amazing title f...For Better or For Worst -- what an amazing title for this blog entry, Lisa! <br /><br />I have such mixed feelings about this whole thing because I see some amazing potential in this wheel. The word I found that I kept "hearing" from the first time this CF site was mentioned was the word "audacious." <br /><br />I wasn't clear on what that word meant exactly, so I looked it up: "daring: bold, daring, or fearless, especially in challenging assumptions or conventions". I was puzzled for a bit as to why THIS word came to me. But the more I looked at it, the more I realized that there is challenge here, there is certainly daring here. And what I see is truly epoch - how time and time again in the old tales a challenge came from quarters which did not put in the work, or the energy, or have the experience or the clarity; from quarters that seemingly wanted to piggy back on the work and merit of others; from quarters that wanted the glory without the sacrifices that must take place. Maybe it's the "romantic" in me, but I see the Hero's story in this wheel.<br /><br />And like the Hero stories of old, I see the potential for some amazing lessons and healings within this.<br /><br />AllyAllyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08736445583769053450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-90874350126823651772010-08-26T23:46:25.397-04:002010-08-26T23:46:25.397-04:00YES - I agree Emily.
Tahau!
LISAYES - I agree Emily.<br /><br />Tahau!<br />LISALisa F. Tardiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11417343793276016602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-18082658544098099322010-08-26T08:16:40.311-04:002010-08-26T08:16:40.311-04:00There is always going to be one Truth v's anot...There is always going to be one Truth v's another Truth. <br />Its easy to get lost in the battle. At the end of the day we all walk our own path.. we may walk side by side for a while.<br />Its important not to lose respect or value for each other, no matter what your belief is. Each experience shared is an opportunity for learning and growth. Ya, some experiences are painful, yet so valuable.<br /> <br />Above all else I believe in the Dreaming, I may not always understand there and then what each experience means, what each dream means, there are so many elements to consider.. and there is timing..sometimes we have to wait and see...nothing is forever lost, you can go back in time with more understanding, more knowledge.. at least that is my experience. <br /><br />Its all Dreaming.. and its all pretty amazing.<br /><br />Emily / FlRFaithfully Loving Ravennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-36038578284704002282010-08-25T07:47:01.918-04:002010-08-25T07:47:01.918-04:00I have known Lisa for more than 15 years. She as h...I have known Lisa for more than 15 years. She as helped me and my family from the beginning. She saved my son's life.<br />As far as I'm concerned she is part of my family and will always be.<br />No mather what I will always trust and believe in her.<br />Love <br />LouiseLouisehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06238812795680762534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-90316720013963507942010-08-24T23:21:49.740-04:002010-08-24T23:21:49.740-04:00I've been following this process between our T...I've been following this process between our Teacher and the other site. I could hear what our teacher spoke of and what she defined as her territory... When I finally decided to read the comments on the blog from DC/CF, I was shocked. It was not only slanderous but the errogance of the author to presume that she knows anothers story. They way that the author spoke as though she intimately knew L. and seemed to come from a place of telling the readers the story of L. Who has this right? The whole blog seemed to me like a dramatic reaction. It was easy to see that 'they' were on attack and looking to slander and disempower. I recall our teacher once explaining that we should never disempower someone in our search for our own power. <br />In the three short years that I have known our teachers I have had in person as well as online experiences filled with magic, phenomenon, profound lessons and teachings. She does not need to claim to be anything as it is quite clear whom she is. Thank you Lisa for all that you have done to help me along my journey. <br />Much Love<br />SerenaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-73111288166068133312010-08-24T22:17:30.092-04:002010-08-24T22:17:30.092-04:00Nathalie,
Thank you for offering support.
When...Nathalie,<br /><br />Thank you for offering support. <br /><br />When you add support to a roof or the foundation of a home you usually increase the support that already exists there.... You increase the size of a beam for example or increase the size of a wall. <br /> <br />In other words if you want to support me concerning this issue -- it would be great if you could identify where "our" strength is and increase it. Find a common ground with us and then, share your story and how it relates.<br /><br />LISALisa F. Tardiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11417343793276016602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-47063822329917171042010-08-24T22:07:04.662-04:002010-08-24T22:07:04.662-04:00To everyone,
I've never called myself "s...To everyone,<br /><br />I've never called myself "shaman" and yet quite a few of you call me "your Shaman". There's something in that particular phenomenon that is characteristic of the medicine in the word SHAMAN. There's also something in the ownership that speaks of community and it's importance to the SHAMAN journey. I hope we get the chance to discuss this further and more in depth in the future.<br /><br />I was not aware of your story Emily. I didn't know you were being followed by these people. I'm sorry to hear about all of this....<br /><br />I thought it was just a case of plagiarism. <br />I need to sit with this for a little while.<br /><br />LISALisa F. Tardiffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11417343793276016602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-86278423994209930902010-08-24T21:39:21.826-04:002010-08-24T21:39:21.826-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bootiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13172384426611745917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-8634375692821097582010-08-24T20:06:31.898-04:002010-08-24T20:06:31.898-04:00Hi Lisa,
Firstly I wanna say, love the picture y...Hi Lisa, <br /><br />Firstly I wanna say, love the picture you chose for this entry :)<br /><br /><br /><br />As always your words are a breath of fresh air and SO welcome. <br />I support you also, and thank you for supporting me. <br /><br />I try my best to follow the Dreaming.. But I never expect to be ripped to shreds for doing so. <br />To be put down, to be interrogated, to the point where sadly the dream is lost and it becomes more about arrogance and power than the DREAM. <br />(over reaction? ) No. I don’t think so. Anyone can read it right there on the CF blog. <br />I learnt my lesson. Some spaces are not to be entered. My Raven is teaching me this.<br /><br /><br />I LOVE Dreaming. I’m GREAT at it. I’m getting better and stronger all of the time. <br />I respect and honour the Dreaming, it is a part of me. I live and breathe it. Its how I walk through my life and thanks to you LISA, I have grown so much with it, I have so much more hope than I did before. And I have the TOOLS to walk my path well, with courage and faith. <br /><br />As you know, I followed the Dreaming to you, and left a very unhealthy situation behind where I had been learning from one of the Teachers on the CF site. I always thought she was such a great Dreamer. I believed in her at one point, when I was only beginning on this path. <br /><br />I’m not one to play nasty, I don’t do name calling, I don’t like to belittle anyone, I don’t like power trips. <br />Therefore, I’m not going to do any of those things here, no matter how much a part of me may want to, because I’ve been hurt quite a bit, abused and humiliated. I’ve learnt some HARD lessons. <br />I have sadly learnt that some people don’t change.<br />I always have hope, should I give up on that hope? No. But I will be more careful next time and protect myself, which I am doing now more so than before. <br /><br />Will I stop Dreaming? Hell no. Will I stop following the Dreaming? Absolutely not! <br />I’m a GREAT Dreamer. Yes I said it, I don’t say it enough. I can do things many people cant, I can do things now I couldn’t do years ago. So I KNOW I gotta be doing something right. <br /><br />I like to speak from my Heart, I like to honour everyone’s story, including my own. <br />My mistake is lack of confidence, giving power to the words of others. I have allowed other people to make me feel small. I have walked away feeling like a piece of shit and cried about it. <br />I have peeled myself off the floor so many times. <br />ONE thing has never failed me - the DREAMING. <br /><br />My advise to anyone who has ever felt small or intimidated by the words of those people they respected and even admired - DON’T forget who you are. Find YOUR Truth. Follow your heart and if you feel guided by the Dreaming, follow it. <br />And FUCK those who put you down, your teachers are supposed to help build you up NOT tear you down. <br /><br />I’m SO grateful to my guides, my Dreamer, to my Shaman LISA, to my COMMUNITY. <br />I finally feel HOME. <br /><br />Love <br /><br /><br />Emily / Faithfully Loving RavenFaithfully Loving Ravennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6912321843321447366.post-40017745294644961182010-08-24T18:33:39.946-04:002010-08-24T18:33:39.946-04:00Lisa how can we support you in this?
with love an...Lisa how can we support you in this?<br /><br />with love and light, <br />NathalieWampumBlueRavenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05953087004284515987noreply@blogger.com